<div dir="ltr"><div>Jean Pierre he is in Belgium a very nice French website.<br></div>This could be a good contact for Oliver.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:00 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cinema-request@konvas.org" target="_blank">cinema-request@konvas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Cinema mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: " THE THRILL OF REEL FILM" (Nicholas Kovats)<br>
2. Re: BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track (Nicholas Kovats)<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:00:07 -0400<br>
From: Nicholas Kovats <<a href="mailto:nkovats@gmail.com">nkovats@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Wonderful overview! Thanks, Rita.<br>
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Speedbird--- via Cinema<br>
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> Umut,<br>
><br>
> Interesting theory but if you use heat then the polymer magnetic strip will<br>
> shrink or warp. I have played around with magnetic tape for years and the<br>
> slight hint of heat will distort the tape and ofcourse the sound quality.<br>
> The Perfectone tape recorder was notorious for stretching tape as its<br>
> capstan motor was directly underneath the recording head and in warm<br>
> climates the heat generated actually warped the tape. In the 1980's they<br>
> changed the tape polymer mix and heat was not a problem. Zonal was one of<br>
> the best tapes for longevity. I tie my plants up in my garden with magnetic<br>
> tape and found that Zonal was the strongest. To test tapes for quality and<br>
> robustness, pull a length of tape and a quality tape should roll itself into<br>
> itself as it stretches and looks like string or thread and you can actually<br>
> sew your sox with it. Immensely strong stuff.<br>
><br>
> Btw. Telefunken brought out the first tape recorder in 1938. It used paper<br>
> tape coated in rust and gave superb recordings. The problem was when<br>
> 'spooling' it broke so they brought out polymer based tape in the late<br>
> 1940's to withstand high speed spooling but paper tape gave better<br>
> recordings as it did not distort. In 1990 they-perfected multi gauge tapes<br>
> for video and sound recording, then the whole world went digital spinning<br>
> the recording heads fast (33 ips) and running the tape slow. Then solid<br>
> state came in and everything became defunct. They called it progress but you<br>
> still cannot beat a good wax disc recording which why it is still used in<br>
> the production of vinyl records.<br>
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> 2 cents worth of useless information.<br>
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> Rita<br>
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> On 27 Apr 2016, at 19:22, Mustafa Umut Sarac via Cinema <<a href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
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> Hello Rita,<br>
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> I bet they used heat to do adhesiving .<br>
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> Umut<br>
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> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Nicholas Kovats via Cinema<br>
> <<a href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Pre-striped Super 8 film has not been actively manufactured in<br>
>> decades. There are some cottage industry level post-stripe services<br>
>> available in Germany I believe. Bit of a toxic mess I'd say. Andec<br>
>> Filmtechnik in Germany offers post magnetic stripe services on both<br>
>> acetate and polyester film, i.e.<br>
>> <a href="http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/docs/pdfs/pr_2014_jan_Preise_seite_09.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/docs/pdfs/pr_2014_jan_Preise_seite_09.pdf</a><br>
>><br>
>> I much prefer Logmar's design whereby they embedded an internal 24 bit<br>
>> digital recorder into their high end Super 8 camera. Mine has the<br>
>> custom 5 pin stereo XLR connector. Their firmware will indicate<br>
>> start/stops regarding the digital audio recorder. The Logmar camera<br>
>> motor is crystal and accurate to 0.001 fps I believe. But it is not a<br>
>> quiet camera.<br>
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>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 12:19 PM, photones--- via Cinema<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Thanks Rita.Gotta try S8 B&W sound film. Kodak always had the best<br>
>> > magnetic<br>
>> > sound stripe!<br>
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:03:19 -0400<br>
From: Nicholas Kovats <<a href="mailto:nkovats@gmail.com">nkovats@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Konvas] BIG INFO ?..Magnetic sound track<br>
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Amazing!<br>
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Olivier via Cinema <<a href="mailto:cinema@konvas.org">cinema@konvas.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> i just come back from 3 days filming the disaster Epicenter of the<br>
> earthquake with my OSMO camera ?<br>
> and coming back looking mails . .<br>
> and see something about magnetic soundtrack .<br>
> The ones of the BEST center of restoration sound of ANY sound format in the<br>
> world (it is true !!!) is CINEVOLUTION of a old friend and ex teacher of me<br>
> , the guy is Jean Pierre is one of the best and only MACHINE maker of any<br>
> kind , from the first sound movie, 70mm , vista all film format can be reach<br>
> read and restored in his LAB ?.<br>
> so if you need mag16mm pert restoration or any kind , this is the guy !<br>
> his name is Jean Pierre Verscheuren ?<br>
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> jean Pierre Verscheure <<a href="mailto:j.verscheure@outlook.com">j.verscheure@outlook.com</a>><br>
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> webpage <a href="http://www.cinevolution.be/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.cinevolution.be/</a><br>
> with OSMO camera<br>
> Facebook page<br>
> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/centrederestoration/?fref=ts" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/centrederestoration/?fref=ts</a><br>
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